To give some context; Korea received an update earlier this month which made all of the casual raids (LC, JH, BH, and IC) more challenging and for the most part, shorter. This morning, that update was unknowingly applied to the patch that hit NA. They posted here on Twitter that they would speak to the developer about it and let us know when they had more info:
https://twitter.com/SoulWorkerGF/status/984442259805474817
This is exactly the kind of update people have been whining/complaining about. The new raids are super fun, exciting, challenging, and FRESH in comparison to what we're now used to grinding on repeat for the past month and a half. This will keep players active and even draw some who've left back to the game.
Not saying this won't get old eventually, but it's a really good way to temporarily relieve the feeling of stagnation that the community has begun to experience in terms of content.
Gameforge, please don't revert the raids if you don't have to.
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What’s the difference between the old and the revamped raids? I can’t login right now so I can’t check them myself
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Indeed a good change of pace !
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What do you mean don't revert the raids

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yes keep the changes please
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Yeah, well, the raids ARE more fun, but they also seem to drop WAY less, at least when it comes to Fragments / Grutin Qubes and Junk Hive.
Now, i love to run a fun raid, but i would also love to get something out of it. I mean, hey, good for you guys, who are already overgeared af, but some people just got 55 and would love not to get smacked in the face with a brick wall.
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Oh yes, I actually agree, and to be honest I don't think it's unintentional of liongames, having these changes applied to raids as soon as possible is the best way to go about it, instead of waiting until they become irrelevant, when people don't have a reason anymore to run the revamped versions.
PLUS
It refresh the PvE content considering we'll probably have to grind it for another month.
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i hope they keep it i like it a lot
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Oh yes, I actually agree, and to be honest I don't think it's unintentional of liongames, having these changes applied to raids as soon as possible is the best way to go about it, instead of waiting until they become irrelevant, when people don't have a reason anymore to run the revamped versions.
That's why Gameforge should keep it since it is RELEVANT atm in our Regions while in KR it's pretty much useless.. So Please, KEEP IT !
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why does this keep happening
1st the costumes now this ...
HOW and WHY are u doing this to the community GF?
Like really. It's time to stop.
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I would agree to keep the changes, right now it feels new which is nice. Seems a bit harder since the mobs hit harder which is good. Plus it seems like we are able to clear the raids with current gear.
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I would agree to keep the changes, right now it feels new which is nice. Seems a bit harder since the mobs hit harder which is good. Plus it seems like we are able to clear the raids with current gear.
Well, if we couldn't this would have given a reason for people to gear up
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I feel like the Failforge will become a legit meme if they revert YET AGAIN.
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I feel like the Failforge will become a legit meme if they revert YET AGAIN.
Well, if they don't, people will barely run raids at all. ONE fragment drop from an entire raid? What, am i supposed to spend 3 weeks grinding for one soulstone?
And not only that - without already good gear, these raids become extremely difficult to finish. Like, im happy for people who have 1.000.000.000 dz worth of gear on them, but its pretty fckn annoying for everybody else.
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I feel like the Failforge will become a legit meme if they revert YET AGAIN.
Well, if they don't, people will barely run raids at all. ONE fragment drop from an entire raid? What, am i supposed to spend 3 weeks grinding for one soulstone?
And not only that - without already good gear, these raids become extremely difficult to finish. Like, im happy for people who have 1.000.000.000 dz worth of gear on them, but its pretty fckn annoying for everybody else.
Stop exaggerating; it's not one drop per raid by a long shot. LC still has the same amount; JH has the same amount or one more. BH and IC got slightly reduced fragment drops (I think, still have to double check) because their run times are now significantly shorter.
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Dont take it away its better for the market maybe now ppl start upgrade their items becouse it more challenging.
I was more happy about those reworked raids then this pvp mode.
You just give things that should be then u take it away same was happend with citadel.
Really hope so it stay like it is now.
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Well, Junk Hive now only drops soulstone fragments from the last boss and not the miniboss, cutting soulstone supply by 50%. Fine by me because I have level 9 stones, but it will be much harder for fresh 55s.
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Well LionGames slipped up and accidentally added this. I don't blame then. Irregular patches are hard to make. Happens to other developers as well.
Can someone list a before / after for those of us who haven't reached 55? I'm just curious.
why does this keep happening
Because they listened to the playerbase.
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LC 2drops (remain)
JH 1drop (nerf)
BH 2drops (nerf)
IC 4drops (nerf)
Correct me if I'm wrong
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LC 2drops (remain)
JH 1drop (nerf)
BH 2drops (nerf)
IC 4drops (nerf)
Correct me if I'm wrong
Did you just test the drop rate with 1 run?